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Caryl Gardens Liverpool 8

August 25, 2012

In 1981 I was beginning to develop my skills as a documentary photographer. At the time I was probably in the best place in the world – Liverpool. The City was full of inspirational places despite being in the grips of a recession. I remember doing my teaching practice in Liverpool 8 and I made a point of wandering around with my SLR camera around my neck. I was regularly stopped by children who would ask me to take their photo. Most of what I photographed has now disappeared in the wake of ‘regeneration’ projects. Many neighbourhoods vanished including Caryl Gardens which was demolished in the 1980’s. I remember Caryl Gardens because just after taking the opening shot (below) of the ‘gardens’ I was asked to take pictures by the children in the photographs below. I was probably on the estate for about 20 minutes but remember thinking that I had just photographed a very special place. I was left with a sense of warmth most likely because I had picked up the sense of community that existed in the place. Some of the photographs later found their way into my exhibition ‘Inner City’.

I recently searched on the internet for Caryl Gardens to discover that they were demolished not long after these photos were taken thirty years ago. Fortunately I was able to put the photos on a facebook sight where a number of the subjects have identified themselves.

A former Caryl Gardens resident, Tracey Horrocks, has started a community group 30 years after the tenements in Dingle were demolished.

Tracey said: “The community spirit experienced by many tenants who lived there will never be forgotten. “Events shared such as the Christmas grottos, summer carnivals and bonfire night parties brought great happiness to the lives of many residents who lived on the breadline.”

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool c.1981

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 1981

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 1981 (Bishopsgate Institute Collection)

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 1981

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 1981 (Bishopsgate Institute Collection)

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8 (Bishopsgate Institute Collection)

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8 (Bishopsgate Institute Collection)

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 1981 (Bishopsgate Institute Collection)

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 1981 (Bishopsgate Institute Collection)

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8 (Bishopsgate Institute Collection)

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8 (Bishopsgate Institute Collection)

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8 (Bishopsgate Institute Collection)

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8 (Bishopsgate Institute Collection)

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8 (Bishopsgate Institute Collection)

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8 (Bishopsgate Institute Collection)

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8 (Bishopsgate Institute Collection)

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8 (Bishopsgate Institute Collection)

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8 (Bishopsgate Institute Collection)

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8 (Bishopsgate Institute Collection)

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8 (Bishopsgate Institute Collection)

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8 (Bishopsgate Institute Collection)

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8

Caryl Gardens, Dingle Liverpool 8 (Bishopsgate Institute Collection)

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  1. Ros permalink
    August 25, 2012

    What lovely pictures and what lovely children. I wonder how each of them has fared?

    • Lorraine permalink
      October 4, 2012

      Hi Ros,
      I saw your enquiry into what happened to the children in the photos. My sister Karen is the girl with white ribbons in her hair and the lighter coloured clothes. My sister did well at school and graduated from Salford University. She still lives in Liverpool, (near our parents), with her husband & her two gorgeous sons. Sadly, she no longer has long plaits in her hair! šŸ™‚

    • mark davies permalink
      June 14, 2013

      Caryl Gardens was not a paradise .
      We lived the best we could and we looked after eachother.

      • frank permalink
        September 9, 2015

        love to be back to them days now life was easy no problems

  2. Lucy Johnson permalink
    August 25, 2012

    Marvellous.

  3. Hugh permalink
    August 25, 2012

    What great pictures of happy childhoods! A reminder of my own teaching practice days in Liverpool in the early 70s. Thanks, Phil.

  4. August 25, 2012

    Great set of photographs.

  5. August 26, 2012

    Fantastic Phil. You captured the essence.

  6. Mark Bell permalink
    October 2, 2012

    I used to live there, but none of the children is me! We had moved out by the time these were taken, but I have great memories of my childhood there. There is a website run by people who used to live in Caryly, pronounced Carly by the way. I have posted a link to Phil’s site. I’m sure that we will soon find out who the children are.

  7. collette moore permalink
    November 9, 2012

    The pictures are great i lived in the block were the children are playing,great childhood memories left carly in 1978.

  8. Sarah Parker permalink
    December 29, 2012

    The dark haired boy in most of the photos is Paddy Moore,the boy on the bike [raleigh grifter!!] is his brother Terry. the other boys are Scott Brown,Tony Neary and [I think]Gary O’Donnell.Terry,Paddy and Scott are all doing fine. They would have all been round 9 or 10.Paddy still wears that polo neck on special occasions and Terry rides his raleigh grifter to work.

    • Chris Duffy permalink
      January 20, 2013

      These photos are lovely, i’m back playing footie in the square, bommie nights, xmas carols,catch the girl kiss the girl,endless long summer nights just playing out, Special —- CHRIS DUFFY 55A

    • Alwyn Maynard permalink
      May 5, 2015

      I thought that was Terry. He was in my class in St Pats juniors. I have a school photo of him.

  9. Paul Mitchell permalink
    January 14, 2013

    Wow what great pictures, brings back fond memories from when I was a young child when I used to live here. My name then was Paul peers, my mum was Kathleen peers and my nan was Ann peers.

    • June 5, 2014

      Paul, what school did you go too as think I knew a Paul Peers but didn’t know he lived in the Gardens?
      I am 48 now and went to St Margaret’s in Aigburth.

  10. Martin Owens permalink
    February 9, 2013

    I lived in 48C until we were forced out in 1984. Lived with my Mum Eileen Owens, brother Peter Owens, and sister Clare Owens. My Auntie Tessie lived in 47B. I used to deliver everyones Echo in Carly from 1979-84. Chris Duffy (above) your flat was on my round šŸ™‚

    Martin Owens (age 45)

    • April 24, 2013

      I remember Tessie we lived in 48 and she used to get our echo for us, great times (1963-1978)

      • Stephen permalink
        May 3, 2013

        Hi sue,did you have a relative called jimmy okafor who had a taxi,i seem to remember a gentleman by this name who lived on the opposite block to me.

    • September 26, 2013

      Yes remember you well, my brother is Paul and John, sister Chris, you went mates with Steven Nichols, hope you and the family are all well xx We lived in 43d above the arch.

      • Ann permalink
        December 8, 2015

        Hi vivienne i went to school with ur sister my name was Ann Hughes then

  11. Kevin Mcconville permalink
    March 1, 2013

    I was born in 63b May 1942 went to St Patricks School with the majority of the kids of my age,as a boy I worked in Pat Cherries the grocers eventually joined the Merchant Navy I would say more than 50% of the men in those days did the same.I am proud to have been part of that community,I left in 1965 but my parents lived there until the 70s

    • December 9, 2014

      Did you have sister named Lorrain? I went to St PATS and used to go to
      to her house we were in the infants together also had sister Carol hope they are o.k. and the same family.

      • Kevin Mcconville permalink
        June 27, 2015

        Hello Eileen yes we are the same family you visited in caryl gardens Lorraine is my sister also Carol and Joan I spoke to lorraine today she remembers you of course.She lives in Childewall she has 2 children and 6grandchildren,carol and Joan are fine as am I .Lorraine sends her regards she said you emigrated to Canada are you still there? My grand children cannot believe how we lived in caryl gardens but I tell them they were happy days cheers Kevin

        • eileenscott permalink
          November 9, 2015

          Hi Kevin good to hear your all well I remember Lorrain married Robbie Harry who lived the other side of Sussex Gardens from us I came back to Englnd in 198o
          Now live in Hertffodshire have two Grandchildren who when told I could play out when I was little as no cars asked if there where just horses and carts.Talk about different world but I wouldn’t swap it regards to you and family.

    • Loreen Salleh permalink
      March 15, 2015

      My grandfather used to live in 51 Caryl Gardens in the 50s, a Malaysian man, an ex-merchant navy seaman and Iā€™m trying to trace his family that lived there. Can anybody help me? His name was James Mohamed Salleh

  12. aggie gray permalink
    March 19, 2013

    hi what lovely pictures i had family living in carl gardens and friends too i use to go to harrington board school over the road by higgsons what happy memories these pictures bring back i lived in king gardens has anyone got any photos of there x

    • maria smyth permalink
      April 23, 2013

      I also went to harry board early seventies..when was u there Aggie??;)))

    • les binks permalink
      March 1, 2017

      my antie lived there, margo and charlie craven

    • les binks permalink
      March 1, 2017

      my mum lived down the road in brunswick gardens ( Agnes white )

  13. maria smyth permalink
    April 23, 2013

    Fondest memories of my nannys+my brother also lived here;)))

    • Lawrence permalink
      May 12, 2015

      Maria I rember u and ur bro, I lived in warry gardens (the best)my ny name was lolar tierney. My bro fanboy who died while at Harry board an terry Tierney, also Mary & margy Tierney my sisters. We moved up the North end never forget those times best years of my life.

  14. Stephen permalink
    May 3, 2013

    Brings back some memories.I lived in number 10D which was on the middle block facing the archway,i also went to harrie board from 1964.Sadly we left carly in november 1980,i loved the place.

  15. Paul (Paulie) Walker permalink
    May 16, 2013

    I grew up on Robertson St just around the corner I played in Caryl Gardens in the 70s and 80s, I collected bonfire wood there and I used to go to a youth club on the ground floor that I can see in one of your shots. I remember watching Bruce Lee’s Enter the Dragon at the club on an old projector does anyone remember it? I used to knock about with Alfie Crawley, Keith Clark and the Doolies who had the pub on Warwick St, facing Eddie Lockharts Chippy, not the Warick Castle the other one I can’t remember it’s name. Sadly I live in Manchester now, but a long lost feeling of home visits me through these pictures, Thankyou very much mate.

    • steve jacques (jinxy) (40A) permalink
      November 4, 2013

      The pub was the star I used to do a disco in the back roomm in 1976-77 good times!!

  16. Paul (Paulie) Walker permalink
    May 16, 2013

    I went to Harrie Board school as well!

  17. July 12, 2013

    I lived in king gardens, but have fond memories of caryl gardens , the carly club , going to watch films there, remberd when Maggie thatcher came to visit caryl gardens,when she was an MP not so fond memories there tho and hi to my mate aggie gray , my dad went to harrie board school too, I still live in the area, not the same anymore but still have loads of child hood memories, like all our blocks having parties, for Liverpool winning cups, or the jubilee great days,

    • Paul McDonough permalink
      January 9, 2014

      I LIVED IN KING GARDENS 2C 1978-1985 BOTTOM BLOCK HAD A ABSOLUTE BALL I WENT TO ST PATRICKS.

    • Diane Farrell permalink
      June 30, 2014

      Hi Maria,
      My dad was born in King Gardens in 1940… Did your family live there at that time? My dad’s name is Bernie Semourson and he is trying to remember who lived in 1a King Gardens?
      Hope you can help,
      Many thanks, DIane Farrell

  18. July 18, 2013

    I was born in Caryl Gardens back in 1976. Have to say I have nothing but bad memories of the place. Freezing cold winters and grim surroundings. Was one of the happiest days when we moved out of there.

    Glad you took the photographs however as life isn’t always so beautiful and to appreciate the good times you have to reflect on how bad it can get.

  19. mike permalink
    August 7, 2013

    My mam and her family were born and bred in Caryly. They were McGuiness and Roberts. Mam was Kathleen. There was also patsy, alec, celia, john, joe, betty, henry, eddie. Sadly only Patsy, joe, eddie and betty left.

    • BILLY permalink
      November 26, 2013

      YOU FORGOT TO MENTION MY MATE TOMMY[NODDY] HAD SOME TIMES WITH HIM

      • mike permalink
        April 2, 2014

        Hi Billy
        How on earth did I forget tommy (noddy). must be old age. Take care and thanks for reminder

  20. September 11, 2013

    Phil, your photographs are fantastic, what fab memories, i recognise a few kids on here, i am from Warwick Gardens myself, but my friend of 55 years lived there. Do you have any photographs of Warwick Gardens.

  21. September 13, 2013

    Lovely looking at these pics, brings back many, I lived in 43d top landing above the arch xx

  22. John Steele permalink
    September 18, 2013

    I was born in Carly in 1952 and lived there until a married in 1973. As i write this in Hong Kong it seems like a lifetime ago. Each block had its own gang and own bommy on 5th of November. We used to keep our wood in the big locker next door to Mrs Braggers house. The poor woman must have been tormented with the constant crashing of another load of floorboards ripped up fromthe old houses somewhere. Endless days of footie and running like bleedin ell if you broke a window with the ball. A few of the lads I knew died young Henry Roberts Teddy Darracott and Vinnie Logan are gone but the momories of them live on in my head.
    Happy days

    • kathleen knox nee Darracott permalink
      December 29, 2013

      Hi do you remember me ,Teds big sister Kathleen ?
      It was lovely to hear you mention my wonderful brother It made my heart soar. Hope you are well
      Take care
      Kath

      • Bryan clark permalink
        May 22, 2014

        Hi Kathleen, (dusty) I remember you and Teddy my name is Bryan Clark, I lived at 39c I joined the merchant navy and left Carly in 69. I have lived in Yorkshire for 30 years now but still get back to Liverpool to see our Joe,kath and Maureen.sorry to hear about Teddy he was a nice guy

        • Loreen Salleh permalink
          March 15, 2015

          Did you know the Salleh’s

      • Maureen Clayton nee Gorman permalink
        August 25, 2015

        Kathleen Knox nee Darracott,

        I’ve just been scouring the internet with my mum ( maureen gorman) for pictures of caryl gardens, and we saw your comment. Before we scrolled down she told me the whole story of Teddy’s tragic acccident and all about her memories of your family. Having read on, she is now tearfully sitting in the garden, beaming smile from ear to ear, and she is telling me all her anecdotes from her years there 1938-48. All her brothers and sisters (Kathleen, Maisie, Harry, Frannie and Sheila) still going strong, and she wants me to pass on her fondest wishes to you. We have lived in Penketh for the last 46 years after moving from Aigburth ( Sandhurst St) in 1969.

        All the best,

        Steve Clayton

    • Deborah Wenham (was Bragger) permalink
      January 6, 2014

      Hi John Mrs Bragger was my nan ……… my dad is Gerrard Bragger everyone I speak to always tell me bout my nan (I never met her) said she was so tiny in height ha well the apples not fallen far from the tree coz I’m not 5 foot ;-( I was also very close to my (little) auntie Maureen (sadly she’s passed away ) but I idolised her xx

      • Chris Duffy permalink
        January 12, 2014

        Hello Deb, I bought my first pair of footie boots of your dad, all for ten bob, nice family the Braggers, regards, CHRIS,

        • Deborah Wenham (was Bragger) permalink
          January 17, 2014

          Ten bob hey Chris..????…….Wonder how they’d of bin worth now..????? X

          • tina burke permalink
            February 4, 2014

            john

            the handsomest boy in thepictures is my fella, Terry moore. happy to see yr comment.

            Tina Burke

          • tina burke permalink
            February 4, 2014

            debbie

            hoping you remember me. how u doin good i hope just sending well wishes

            tina burke

      • steve davis permalink
        July 19, 2017

        just been looking at photos of caryl gardens, saw the name bragger, my grandad was edward bragger , his wifes maiden name was jones.her brother was eddy jones who lived in that area.cant remember all his childrens names , but alan jones was the eldest son who will be around 65 now, his younger brother eddy jones [ known as eddy bark ! ] will be in his mid 50″s . cannot remember the girls names , i think their was 3 girls. i remember visiting often as a child in the late 50″s early 60″s . lost total contact in the 70″s. its very possible that gerrard bragger is related to my late grandad as bragger is an unusual surname. please feel free to reply. thanks

    • mike permalink
      April 2, 2014

      Hi John,
      See you were a friend of Henry Roberts(my uncle) saddest day of my life when he passed away. I was born on Henrys 16 birthday and was only 9 but still remember his wife banging mams door down at 5am screaming he was dead. So sad only 25.Take care

    • Mike Hart permalink
      May 13, 2016

      Hi John,
      Sure we used to play football together. Your brother Terry, Cavo, Andy…?
      Sam Cooke a big favourite, I think.
      Good to hear that you’re doing well.
      Mike (Mick, never liked that name)

  23. Hugh Atherton [Abu] permalink
    November 14, 2013

    Our family lived in 56D opposite the Duffy’s and the Carney’s.
    I have some very fond memories of Carly and all the friends I grew up with throughout the 60s and 70s. Our little gang consisted of Terry Carney [Jake],Joey White [Whitey],Paddy Ashe.Gerard Lawler[Lulu], Don Green,Jimmy Green,Mick Carney and others too numerous to mention.I remember bonfire night started about two months before Nov 5th with the collection of the bommy wood which was stored and guarded in the yard by the stairs leading down onto Hill St. We were like leaf cutter ants carrying doors on our backs from the bombed out houses nearby.I remember the strret parties when there was a royal occasion to be celebrated. Catch the girl kiss the girl, Kick the can. Arlio arlio. We used to play a game called S.P.O.T where you had to kick a ball and hit the wall no matter how far the last kid had blasted it. Gerard Lawlers Nan always came out and told us to go away [Not the phrase she used but you get my drift]. I too went to Harry Board CP school,then on to St James secondary before it closed and some of us ended our school years in Wellington Road. Happiest days of our young lives at the time,but I suspect none of us knew it then. Hughie Atherton

    • Paula Siner permalink
      February 24, 2014

      Iya my dad is terry carney, he tell me about all hi little story’s about Carly gardens. I was born there but can’t really remember much my dad and m love down park lane now . He asked to say hello and he hopes your keeping well.

      • Hughie Atherton permalink
        March 11, 2014

        Hi Paula
        Your dad Terry was one of my best mates back then. We used to drink in the Angels on Stanhope St and a ton of other pubs too I might add.
        Please say hi to Terry for me,I hope he’s doing well too.

        Hughie

      • Ann hughes permalink
        February 6, 2016

        Hi paula i remember u as a tiny little baba, i was friends with your mum, my name at that time was ann hughes x

    • betty duffy permalink
      June 7, 2014

      hi Hughie hope you and family are well x

      • Hughie Atherton permalink
        June 25, 2014

        Hi Betty,How are you and the family.[well I hope] I’m doing fine,married with 2 kids and 2 grandchildren. Been working for United Utilities for last 26 years. Often think of the olden days [haha] in Carly and the stunts we all got up to. I remember being gutted when we moved out all the way up to Admiral Street [felt miles away to me].
        Do you still see any of the old faces from Carly ?. I have’nt seen anyone for years since I married and moved out to the sticks. Say hi to the family for me. Hughie X

    • February 15, 2015

      Hi Hugh, I remember you I was Gerard Lawler’s cousin. I lived in Grafton House but used to hang out in Caryly. I also remember my aunty Mary….Gerards nan complaining of the noise in the block and I would hide up the stairs…she would shout, I know your up there Mary Coulter and I’m telling your mother ha ha. but looking back it must have been so annoying with all us kids in the block every night and no peace. I must be the age she was now and my kids all grown up, I can sympathise with her. Hope your keeping well Hugh xx

      • Hughie Atherton permalink
        March 17, 2015

        Jeez ! Mary Coulter. My first crush [haha].
        Yeah we did make a bit of a racket on the quiet didn’t we.
        Your Aunty Mary hated it when we played footy against the wall at the side of her flat I remember. How are Gerard and Stephen Lawler getting along ?
        I have’nt heard or seen anyone from Carly for over thirty five years Mary.
        I hope you and the family are all well, and it’s lovely to hear from you.
        Take care.
        Hugh x

    • Mick Green permalink
      March 7, 2015

      Alright Hughie!

      It’s Mick Green here brother of Don and Jimmy, just seen your post and it brought back all the good memories of the old days growing up in Carly. All 6 of us Green’s are still living local.
      We had some cracking times making the biggest bommie fires!!
      It’s nice to hear from Betty too!!

      • Hughie Atherton permalink
        March 17, 2015

        Hi Mick
        How the hell are you mate,well I hope. Absolutely right Mick,those memories of our little gang in Carly will stay with us forever mate.
        Some of the stunts we used to pull, I’m surprised we are still here.
        If we weren’t climbing up the silo’s on the dock we were fishing for crabs in it haha.
        Say hi to all the family for me Mick and pass on my regards.

        Chhers, Hughie

        • Ste Filburn permalink
          May 2, 2015

          Hi Hugie,well this is a blast from the past. I remember those good times at carley,harry board and wellie rd schools.How the devil are ya mate,not seen ya since wellie rd. I bump into mick from time to time,he works local to me.Hope ya keeping well pal.

        • Ann permalink
          December 8, 2015

          Hi hughie its Ann Hughes hope you and your family are keeping well xxx

          • Colin permalink
            January 29, 2016

            Ann Hughes, did you used to go to the top rank and go out with a lad called Colin from Seaforth, about 1973

    • Ann permalink
      December 7, 2015

      Hi hughie this is Ann Hughes hope u and your family are keeping well xxx

      • Ann permalink
        February 2, 2016

        Yes, hi colin

        • Colin Hammerton permalink
          February 2, 2016

          Hi Ann , hope you are doing well , been a really long time , would be nice to know how life has been for you colinhammerton@yahoo.com

          • Ann permalink
            February 3, 2016

            Really suprised to hear from you, why are you on carly website x

        • Colin Hammerton permalink
          February 3, 2016

          Just an old man reminiscing about his youth I guess, seen an article about caryl gardens and remembered you living there and when I looked on the site I saw your name I thought it had to be you , my apologies if you don’t like to be contacted but thought it would be nice to be friends on Facebook or something xx

          • Ann permalink
            February 4, 2016

            Nice to hear from you, i no longer live in liverpool, hope you and you family are well, i have 3 children and a gorgeous grandson how about you

        • Colin Hammerton permalink
          February 4, 2016

          I have a son , he’s 30 now but no grandchildren yet , I live in St Helens now and work in skelmersdale. Hope you and your family are well , where do you live now ? Are you on Facebook ? X

          • Ann permalink
            February 4, 2016

            Dont have facebook

        • Colin Hammerton permalink
          February 4, 2016

          Ok , well it was lovely being in touch again after all those years , I wish you and your family all the very best ,
          Take care.
          Colin xxx

        • Colin Hammerton permalink
          February 5, 2016

          Ann , could we not stay in touch ?

          • Ann permalink
            February 5, 2016

            Yes i would like that x

        • Colin Hammerton permalink
          February 5, 2016

          Not on here , could you email me when you have the time .
          Thanks x

        • Colin Hammerton permalink
          February 9, 2016

          Hi Ann , are you ok ?

        • Colin Hammerton permalink
          February 10, 2016

          Ann , your old friend Collet Hamilton would like to talk to you on Facebook
          Thanks x

        • Colin Hammerton permalink
          March 24, 2016

          Hi Ann , how are you

  24. John Burns permalink
    November 14, 2013

    I never lived in Caryl Gardens but had friends there so spent a lot of time inside. Robbie Fowler’s Dad lived there. I recall as a 2 to 3 year old going for the National Health orange juice in the health centre in Caryl Gardens. They had a nice community feel when I was a kid. Caryl Garden was right opposite the Southern Hospital and some flats overlooked the wards with the beds on view. However I recall some of the kids in there were very rough and violent for no apparent reason. In the early days they were very clean places, but as time went on, some of these “gardens”, what a misnomer, became dumps for problem people. The decline was rapid.

    Liverpool was full of these “garden” types of flats. They have now nearly all been bulldozed. They were a part the 1930s public housing projects. The city led the world at the time in this field, building swathes of them all over in a very short space of time. The quality of the construction was very high. The Gardens were based on the Austrian/German models with art deco trimming on some, like Caryl Gardens. One of the first is still standing in Vienna. Karl Marx Hof:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx-Hof

    The Bullring in Liverpool (still standing) was based on the Britz Horseshoe estate in Berlin. Do a Google and it all comes up.

    1940/50s Liverpool never ever felt like an English city looking more like Germany. Outsiders would always comment how different Liverpool was to the rest of the UK. I would notice that other English towns and cities never looked like Liverpool but as a kid could never figure out why. They were right in many ways. šŸ™‚ Despite many of these Gardens being right next to the docks, miraculously few suffered bomb damage in world war two. The railway terminal opposite Caryl Gardens was blown out and was never rebuilt, but Caryl Gardens survived.

  25. John Burns permalink
    November 14, 2013

    Caryl Gardens was actually in Harrington, not Dingle. Harrington was a town of its own at one time.

  26. John Burns permalink
    November 14, 2013

    Two footballer are from Caryl Gardens: Ian Callaghan and Willie Carlin of Derby County. Ian Callaghan lived in Caryl Gradens when playing for Liverpool and England and was winning league titles and European trophies. Amazing! He lived on the ground floor. Willie Carlin was at Liverpool as a kid and played only one game before being released and Brian Clough eventually picked him up.

    Robbie Flower’s Dad lived in Caryl Gardens as a kid, so maybe that does not count.

    • November 20, 2013

      my mum lived in caryl gardens, with her four sisters, and one brother, they where the lallys, 1940’s,

    • January 24, 2014

      I didnt live in Carly I lived in Mann St but had good friends in Carly Maria Lavell and Rose Donaque, I remember Ian Calligan and his dog call Chubby Checker, they were very happy times when there was a very stront community.

  27. December 14, 2013

    great memories of kingy born there 1944 played footy every night for 3hrs goosy gledhill the caretaker always tried to stop us but never could some names you might remember tommy collins bernie coyne kevin dimmo robinson tedda walsh barry hilditch victor manning to name a few

    re 1944 all we done was play football all the time 3hrs nightly we had floodlights. caretaker goosy gredhill tried to stop us but he gave up.some of the lads as follows tommy collins kevin dimmo robinson bernie coyne mike rice barry hilditch teddy walsh arthur blair to name a few

    • Kevin Robinson permalink
      June 6, 2014

      Hi Roy, Your so right we would play football day and night, you lived in number 22c in Kingy. I remember Roy wasn’t Bill Foulkes who played for Man Utd your uncle. We also used to play up in Speke because you had a uncle who lived up there?. I watched the first cup final on your telly Man City played Birmingham City ( when Bert Trautman broke his neck). I also remember your dad smoking his pipe and smelling Thick Twist tobacco. The last time I remember seeing you Roy was when you where driving the number 1 bus along the dock road, and I was working on the docks, I hope your well Roy give me a shout if you wish, take care

      • Roy rogers permalink
        June 22, 2014

        hi Kevin yes good day no bill foukes was brother in laws relation and it was brother who lived in speke . have u ever come a x anyone else l live in runcorn i use to go down 2 park rd some Saturdays met your brother brian in the oak and use to get my bus to runcorna bit of a lad he was

    • Diane Farrell permalink
      June 30, 2014

      Hi Roy,
      My dad lived in Kings Garden, Bernie Semourson, born 1940… Do you remember the Semourson family? Do you remember who lived in 1a Kings Gardens at that time as my dad is struggling to remember?
      Cheers, Diane Farrell

      • Roy rogers permalink
        July 2, 2014

        hi Diane dont remember name sorry but i lived in the old block but may recognise him by sight he would remembe r tony ward about the same age as your dad he lives in runcorn as well the name of familly in was William Briggs that was up to 1959 cheers

        • Diane Farrell permalink
          July 21, 2014

          Hi Roy, thanks for the reply x… Will pass the info onto my dad and see if he recognises any of the names. It’s great reading everybody’s fond and not so fond childhood memories šŸ™‚

          • Diane Farrell permalink
            July 27, 2014

            Roy, any idea who lived 18d Kings Garden?

          • Diane Farrell permalink
            July 30, 2014

            hi Diane up to 1959 john allerston lived in 18d ok

    • gerard lucock permalink
      January 3, 2015

      Hi roy do you remember my aunt
      katie sharp she was a conductor on the
      number 1 we all lived in 23c warick gdns
      till the early 70s
      gerard lucock

    • Rocky chai permalink
      June 24, 2016

      Brings back memories just going thru all those pictures an comments. Feels like a reflection in time. We moved to caryly in the mid sixties an yes it was hard no doubt but we had a connection to each other u wouldn’t see today. We lived in 2E top floor nr the arches where lottie wafts shop was i remember her well an the shop which u couldn’t swing a moggy in it. It was that small. Also had cherries shop next to it facing the southern hossy. I remember mike who worked there an he left to join an airline an i was sad as anything as i wanted to do wot he was doing but was only a kid. Francis cole lived under us. Mams name was pat an me dads was Alvin chai. Jeanette bell used to tje me to school at st pats walking up hill street brilliant

  28. Maureen Wall permalink
    December 27, 2013

    My nana and family lived in number 12.I lived on Upper Parly St and we had to go to my nanas for a bath.I was only young but can remember Carly.My nana was Teresea Maguire,my auntie Lily Maguire,Sally Maguire who worked at the Adelphi in town.I remember my nana used to go to The Star pub and all the kids went the Empire one Christmas cursety of the pub.I had an uncle called Ownie Maguire aswell.I have happy memories of staying there at my nanas.My mum is Patty Maguire.

  29. Karen Thomas permalink
    December 30, 2013

    I loved these pictures. I didn’t live there, but was there every Saturday visiting my nanny Steele (28b). My mum was Alice Steele. I loved that place, nothing but fond memories.

  30. Deborah Wenham (was Bragger) permalink
    January 6, 2014

    My dad (Gerrard Bragger) lived in the bottom house as you walked through the 1st main arch (walking towards the dock road) I later went on to go to Carly club with my mates omg I love looking at these old pics I then went in to marry Stephen Wenham ( Bomber) / Big John) Wenhams son Stephen ………. Memories are the best no one can take them away xx

  31. Timmy Dwyer permalink
    January 23, 2014

    Hi John Burns, I’ve been trying to contact you, can you please drop me a line at timpmdwyer@aol.com. Thank you kindly.

  32. January 24, 2014

    Hi Maria Walker are you the same girl that hung around with me & Susan Costello ?? Luved Caryl Gardens fond memories of ther , My Nannie lived ther Flo McPartland also had a friend Maria Logan ther

    • maria walker permalink
      October 22, 2014

      maria walker ye its me susan great days hey wish we were all still in kingey now happy days xx

  33. January 24, 2014

    Forgot to mention i lived in King Gardens !!!

  34. January 24, 2014

    Karan Thomas my sister Pasty Dunleavey was your mums mate they worked together

    • Karen Thomas permalink
      February 24, 2014

      Thanks Fran, nice to know someone knew our mum Alice Steele–she was taken at a very young age with breast cancer

  35. February 1, 2014

    My grandfather Thomas Lawler lived there until 1963 when he died at the age of 65. His nickname was Tosh. He lived at number 21E does anybody remember him? yes I know a long time ago. I lived at Mather Street just off Park Road in them days.

  36. tina burke permalink
    February 4, 2014

    I found these pictures. they represent so much. I too like many others did not live there but found the place spectacular. post these photos on, they are beautiful.

  37. Tracey permalink
    February 25, 2014

    My mums family lived in Caryl Gardens not sure what number but their surname is Edge, anybody remember them?

    • Bryan clark permalink
      May 28, 2014

      Hi Tracey the Edges lived under ours at39b remember mrs Edge,Ethel and I think Tommy hope this as been helpful to you.

    • Phil morgan permalink
      September 21, 2017

      Did you have a brother Billy went to Wellington. Road school. I went to Harrington board and Wellington. Road late 6os ear 70s

  38. Pam Lowrey (ne Brennan) permalink
    February 25, 2014

    Does anyone remember my nan, Alice Hughes and aunties from 82c (30s/40s/50s &60s). I spent a lot of my own childhood at my Nan’s in Carly in the fifties and sixties.

    • Loreen Salleh permalink
      April 13, 2015

      Can you remember the Salleh’s who lived there, I’m trying to trace my grandfathers family but am unable to find much on them

    • Tracey permalink
      October 14, 2015

      Hi Pam. I was doing some research on a family member’s death, on Toxteth Park Cemetery website for burials in the year 1976. While looking, I came across the name of a 2 yr old girl who died that year, address given as 8A Caryl Gardens. Her name was (correct spelling) KRISTINE HUGHES. I found it particularly upsetting because I can’t find out how the little girl died. It was playing on my mind, and then I found this site. Can you, or anybody else, shed some light on this please?. I will add this: – It is not my intention to cause any upset or distress with my query. I will understand if you, Pam, or another person reading this, who has info, disregards me and my query. If that’s the case, I am very sorry, please forgive me. Tracey, from Bootle.xxx

  39. Mark Wenham permalink
    March 3, 2014

    We lived there about 40 years ago with our Dad John Wenham and mum Ronnie. Strange to look at theses old photos and all the memories come back. My Nan, Edy Wenham,used to live on the bottom block, with our Scobie, over looking the river. Can remember now sitting with her in front of the coal fire glancing through the window as the ships went up the Mersey. One night when there was a gas leak or something. We all had to walk up the the community hall in the middle of the night. Worst memories were getting up early before school and having to go the shop for the fire lighters. No one had much but they pulled together.

    • May 13, 2016

      Hi Mark,
      Used to know Scobie really well, played football with him and others just in front of the shellogs ( old air raid shelters).
      Was his brothers name Franna , Francis?
      Mike hart

  40. tom cropper or tom mckeownt permalink
    March 29, 2014

    hi everyone we lived in 41a carly i worked in elsie grocers my auntie clara made every kid in carly a jumper my mates were the duffys and the donks and sunny boy i went to harry board and welligton rd then away to sea as we all did good things came out of caryly i finished as a chief engineer i loved the place and the people.

    • Bertha LInsner permalink
      July 19, 2015

      Hello Tommy, it’s Bertha LInsner, your cousin. Hope your keeping well?

    • Helen Kocinski permalink
      September 7, 2015

      Hi Tommy,
      That address sounds familiar. Did I visit your Mum Lilly ? Is your brother John ?
      I’m Helen who came from Leeds and started a nursing course at The Royal Southern and I visited your Mum when I had days off, she was always so kind and would make jam butties for the student nurses to eat at the back of the ward.
      Since returning to Leeds went to visit Wales with a friend once and we bumped into your Mum on her way to work, and she told us where to find your Aunt Clara and we did and had a good night out.
      I think I still have one of your Mum’s letters.
      Did you know the Rice’s that I think lived in Grafton House then moved to Byles St., my friend was Kathy and she had a big family including Tony, Frank, Johnny, the twins etc. half of them supported Everton the other half L’pool – there must have been some arguments on match days.
      Although I was from Leeds I remember when there were Cup victories and people painted their houses in their team’s colours.
      There weren’t always good times as once going down Hill St., some girls threatened to beat me up for not giving them money for ice creams, I think it was, and another time I saw a car alight down there!!
      No-one swore though, not as far as I can remember.

      • Helen permalink
        September 7, 2015

        Hello Tommy,
        I think I visited your Mum when I had days off from nursing. I was a student nurse at The Royal Southern. Your brother is John.
        Your Mum was always kind and made jam butties for the nurses. I also remember your Aunt Clara
        I came from Leeds and remember people painting their houses in the team colours when they won the Cup.
        Do you also remember the Rice’s from Grafton House – my friend was Kathy.

  41. sharron edwards permalink
    April 15, 2014

    I lived in Robertson St and went to St. Malachys but my sister lived in 44d Carly Gardens and my mates lived in Warwick Gardens. looking at the photos brough back really good memories, my friends Sheila MaClean had a nan who knitted beutiful ponchos which we all wore in differnet colours. Lockards Chippy and veg shop, and a pub on every corner. I had the best childhood, live over the water now, but never forget where I am from.

    • Roy rogers permalink
      July 4, 2014

      hi sharron is that Sheila McLean that went to st James in the 50s she had nice eyes and lovely rosy cheeks and a pleasant personality i used fancy her in those innocent days we even went to infants and junior school at Windsor street the last time i spoke to her was the 70s she was working in a pubif you still keep in touch give me a mention with a name like that she won’t forget cheers ps my mother had a sense humour ha

      • Loreen Salleh permalink
        March 15, 2015

        Can you remember the Salleh’s, they lived at 51

  42. Rosie permalink
    June 5, 2014

    I was born in caryl gardens in 1976 my nan lived there the doyles do any one remember them

  43. Joseph McNicholas (junior) permalink
    June 5, 2014

    Amazing!!
    I’m 37 now and some of my earliest memories are of visiting my Nanna Lizzie in ‘Carly’ just before it was demolished and she moved up to Tavistock Walk.

  44. June 5, 2014

    I was born in caryl gardens brings back a lot of great memories or

  45. karl lucas permalink
    June 6, 2014

    I was born in caryll gardens. Not sure what number my mum n dad lived in. I’m 35 now mum and dad are lynn and bobby lucas.

  46. Margaret laverty permalink
    July 16, 2014

    Hi Paul peers, remember me??? Your mum & your auntie Mary use to mind me when I was a kid & I use to mind you!!! & ya nanny ann use to cut my hair!!! Fond memories of caryl…. I love that place!!! X

  47. Diane Farrell permalink
    July 29, 2014

    hi Diane up to 1959 John alerston lived in 18d cheers

    • Diane Farrell permalink
      August 9, 2014

      My dad reckons he lived there up to 1943 ish? Did John move in after that do you know?

      • Diane Farrell permalink
        August 10, 2014

        hi Diane he more than likely did i only have info from resident census form 1955 1959

        • Diane Farrell permalink
          August 10, 2014

          Thanks Roy, much appreciated šŸ™‚

  48. Carole Duffy permalink
    August 13, 2014

    Can someone tell me how I get hold of resident census form 1955 1959 for Caryl Gardens.

  49. carole Duffy permalink
    August 21, 2014

    hi Carole i bought mine in a frame a few yrs ago .but i think if you go to town hall they may do it or point u in the right direction cheers

  50. Elaine Beckett permalink
    October 23, 2014

    My family lived in Carly until 1968, think we lived in 30b. Jimmy and Elsie Murphy (was McCartney), my brothers Jimmy, Peter, Michael and Arthur. We moved up to Huyton just after I was born. Jimmy and Peter went to Harrington Board and Jimmy later went to the Liverpool Institute.

  51. gerard lucock permalink
    December 12, 2014

    We lived in 18d warwick gardens facing carly.i used to keep dixie
    while me mates robbed your bommy wood.lived there between
    1958 till 1971.moved to netherley

  52. Roy rogers permalink
    January 6, 2015

    hi Gerard no don,t know her maybe before my time i started at dingle depot in 1964 and was on the 1s until they moved them to litherland depot so spent many years at walton depot not the jail ha ha left in 1986 and finished my career at runcorn phew

    • Diane Farrell permalink
      February 7, 2015

      Hi Roy… Do you remember any of the Doctors names that catered for Kings Garden in and around 1940 ?…..

  53. Steve thompson permalink
    January 19, 2015

    we moved there around 1976 it was a great place to live had some
    fun living there

  54. February 9, 2015

    hi Diane i grew up in 50s the nearest doctor was Dr hool which was next to johnsons right oppisite the enterance to kingy although our drs was in park st dr selkirk cheers

    • Diane Farrell permalink
      February 14, 2015

      That’s really helpful, thanks again Roy ????

  55. Diane Farrell permalink
    February 14, 2015

    Those questiins marks were an error, they we’re suppose to be a smiley face x

    • Christopher Duffy permalink
      February 15, 2015

      Hi Diane

      Just thought I would mention there was a Dr Curran near St Pat’s (Park Road) and he was always drunk.

      Regards

      Chris

  56. Tommy Connolly permalink
    May 5, 2015

    Got some great memories of caryl gardens I was born there Great to see these pics thanks

  57. Tommy Connolly permalink
    May 5, 2015

    I was born in 24a caryl gardens mum was Peggy Connolly ( nee Crowe) dad was Andy we lived with my nan Tessie and my aunty Angela my nickname was bowler my cousin was called jock

    • Jane permalink
      May 20, 2015

      My nan knows all your family as she lived in warwick gardens in the 50’s!

  58. Gillian Mortiboy permalink
    June 11, 2015

    Hi. Just wondering if anyone remembers my family, The Frost’s who lived in Caryl Gardens in the 30s to 60s? My nana also owned the Protestant shop C Waft (Lottie) and was married to Bill. Evelyn and Harold were their children.

  59. Ian Lawton permalink
    June 25, 2015

    I remember “lotty Wafts” used to call in every night walking home from Harry Board school, I always preferred it to the shop around the corner which I think was called “Cherrys” but can’t be certain. We used ti live in 27 with my uncle and aunt Billy ans Sarah Jones, then moved into 15b. Happy memories. Thanks all for posting.

  60. Pauline Bassett permalink
    September 26, 2015

    Hi all Loved Carl Gardens , I lived in the area and played in Carlie every day. The carlie club and days out, great times and very fond memories. xxx thanks for sharing these memorable photo’s.Remember Kathleen and Rose Hughes serving in their parents shop forgotten the name of the shop, great times . x

  61. Lynne permalink
    October 20, 2015

    Can any 1 remember a Mary Owen from 58d dingle lane and a Joseph Allenson ..

  62. October 24, 2015

    Hia Diane Farrell my father in law lived in Carly gardens his name is Tony Claro he remembers the Farrell family

  63. Ann permalink
    December 8, 2015

    Ann Hughes as i was then, i was born in carly lived at 2d for years then later at 44c friends include sandra fraser karen bell pat stocton maureen chapman and many more

    • Jeanette whittle/bell permalink
      December 28, 2015

      Hi Ann this is Jeanette bell I remember you well. Recently saw Vera Sandra frasers mum & they are all well. Our Karen lives in Spain but is home for Xmas stayin in garston.wouldnt it be lovely to get together soon. had a drink with pat & Margaret Stockton a few was ago.xxxxx

  64. Ann permalink
    December 8, 2015

    These pics bring back fond memories

  65. Paula Paul permalink
    December 29, 2015

    Does any one remember Norah Mcshane and John mcshane lived there 50’s 60’s ??

    • maria permalink
      April 3, 2016

      Hiya John was my dad sadly passed in 2014 Nora was my aunt

  66. Ann permalink
    February 1, 2016

    Yes i did

  67. Roy rogers permalink
    February 2, 2016

    hi Diane its
    a small world tell your dad that roy rogers is now dating his sister mary or your aunt

  68. tony brown permalink
    March 16, 2016

    came across photos by accident, and recognised paddy and terry straight away.and then scott .my cousins. Then it all came crashing back. nan and da (paddy and mary brown) 12 d warwick gdns with Jimmy betty larney me dad Tony brenda and tommy ( not forgetting mary and patrick. I used to be down in warwick gardens all summer hols playing with the gang . me grandad getting shipped to carly when they kncked down warwick. da’s 70th party in the old club. canty remember any bad times only the funand laughs, playing in the birdseye at the back . Me nan shouting at us to behave from the little veranda uncle larney had a pigeon coop on there.
    playing on garricks sweet shop roof.(think thats how its spelt).

  69. Patsy brewer permalink
    April 1, 2016

    Anyone remember the Brewers at 14e, patsy,james,annie and teresa cheers

    • Alan Brewer permalink
      September 28, 2016

      My Dad was called Alan Brewer and he has a few brothers and sisters who grew up here, my Nan was called Josie & my Grandad was William (Billy)

  70. Stephen permalink
    April 1, 2016

    I was in Liverpool today and, on a whim, went back to find where I lived for a few months – aged 5 – in 1955. I didn’t even know the name, except that it was a block of 1930s ‘London’ style flats in Dingle – but I stopped a local to ask, and he helpfully told me, it was Caryl gardens, since demolished.

    My Mam and I were from Manchester, but she had met a Liverpool man called ‘Jack’ and we moved in with him in Caryl gardens for a few months. We lived on about the fourth floor, directly opposite the arch. Money and food was short. One day Mam gave me bacon and eggs (can’t have been much for a 5 year old), but told me off for not saving any for her…….she must have been very hungry. For years later, I never ate anything (even a sweet) without offering it to anyone I was with ! One day a barrow boy came in through the arch with a cart full of coconuts and peaches – I had never set eyes on either. They were 6 old pence each, and I dashed down to buy one. The Echo was only 2.5d then….so that’s more than Ā£1.50 in today’s money.

    Anyway, Mam’s relationship didn’t work out. Her sister had to mail her the money for the train fare, and we went back to Manchester. I often reflect that if things had worked out differently I would have been a ‘scouser’ and not a mancunian !

  71. Brian Glover permalink
    April 3, 2016

    I too did a teaching practice in Harringtons in 1976. Afraid I can’t remember any names, but do remember the class teacher – a firm but friendly older lady – getting very excited that I could teach swimming in the basement. Some poor boy was targeted by her and a bar of soap.

  72. Macklin permalink
    September 30, 2016

    My family all lived & grew up in caryl gardens, or carly as they call it. Looking forward to showing them these photos. Thanks.

  73. August 27, 2017

    I lived in 8a Carly. Gardens with my two brothers john and Brian Holden we all went to st pats school we had a fantastic childhood we had lots of friends and everyone was so friendly my dad name was also john and my mother was Elizabeth mckevitt they where a big family we all had Avery happy childhood Carly was the best.

    • Chris Duffy permalink
      September 21, 2017

      I remember your family, I can remember John & John fowler singing the song ” My friend the Witch Doctor” and me trying to copy them, listen to the song and you’ll see what I mean, you lived next door to my buddy Gordon Savage, and you moved from Carly in the early Sixties, ??

      • John Holden permalink
        September 24, 2017

        Hi Chris hope your keeping well, I remember Gordon very well and Dennis and Robert Savage. John Fowler was a great mate of mine and Georgie Drayper.
        Chris do you know if John Fowler is on Facebook, or do you know where he lives,
        I would love to hear from him.
        I have lived in Australia for the past 46years so lost touch abit
        Anyway Chris take care, good to hear from you John.

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